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Official: Rivera plane plummeted almost straight
Mexico's top transportation official says a plane carrying Mexican-American music superstar Jenni Rivera plunged almost vertically from more than 28,000 feet and hit the ground in a nose-dive at more than 600 miles an hour. (www.chron.com) 更多...Sort type: [Top] [Newest]
It seems that a country would want the safest of aircraft, pilot and traffic issues, instead of being decades behind in regulations. Mexico is so backward in respect to other countries.
that is very sad the singer allihia pilot over loaded their plane
Did the engines stall or was it suicide of pilot???
Plane was cleared to FL 370
I rise to a point of order. I keep reading about a 78 year old pilot. None of the pictures tweeted show anyone close to that age. I saw a certificate that had to be used with a Mexican pilots license that allowed the man to fly the Lear as a private pilot using visual flight rules. The birthdate on that certificate looked to me like his birthday was in 1984 making him about 28.
I could never board a 43 year old jet owned by a drug dealer, sit in the back, with a VFR private pilot at the controls. OF A LEAR 25!!!!
May they rest in peace.
I could never board a 43 year old jet owned by a drug dealer, sit in the back, with a VFR private pilot at the controls. OF A LEAR 25!!!!
May they rest in peace.
@bentwing60...Does Lear say if the Mach tuck event is recoverable at lower altitudes if flight idle is selected and the boards are Not deployed without the gear extension? Or is the gear extension required for recovery once your in it?
Gotta put the gear down, gotta have drag. A Lear doesn't slow down well in one piece and the boards make it much worse in this scenario. Not too many guys around to tell the tale of what really happens, so my comments may be taken as just that. Sim based. The scenario goes that after the overspeed issue (failed or disabled mach warning system, stick puller) the ailerons went into buzz or, worst case snatch,(lock to lock). Recovery only applied to aileron buzz because supposedly snatch meant loss of airframe integrity, I.E splat. Throttles, idle-gear down-very gentle dive recovery so as not to further excite the ailerons, or pull the wings or tail off the airplane. This was usually a high altitude scenario (the 40's) but would apply at 280 with a very high indicated airspeed and exceeding MMO as they were at the transition altitude from IAS to Mach. Anywho, the only way they would prove my scenario would be to find an aileron someplace other than the confetti field. Maybe in a decade given the location and terrain. Otherwise, pure speculation. Do you fly a 20 series Lear?
Gotta put out the gear, the need for drag is paramount. This is a high altitude, mach scenario and again, they were in the transition range. The fatal part of this story was the aileron snatch. Supposedly the yoke would go lock to lock and an aileron would flee the scene. Not too many souls around to tell what really happens so I am going by the old sim. stories. Supposedly the reason for a very gentle overspeed recovery was so as not to further excite the ailerons with a g-load and send them from buzz to snatch. Not to mention pulling the wings or tail off. A Lear does not slow down quickly in one piece, but I suppose it might if it were coming apart! If they find an aileron somewhere other than in the confetti pile, I suppose I might be proven right, but given the locale and terrain, they might not find an aileron for another decade. This sort of thing usually occurred in the 40's where indicated airspeed was around 225 at 410 to 215 at 450 and VLO was 200. My gear door comment would apply at 280 because the indicated airspeed was around 300 or better, and the gear doors would probably go away. You wouldn't care if you survived. Call the insurance company. Do you fly a 20 series Lear?