Engine Drops Out of B-52 During Training at Minot Air Force Base

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Engine Drops Out of B-52 During Training at Minot Air Force Base

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MINOT AIR FORCE BASE, N.D. — An engine dropped out of a B-52 bomber during a training flight on Wednesday, the Air Force has confirmed following questions from Defense News. (www.defensenews.com) 更多...

Zachary Colescott

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Zachary Colescott 3年之前 34

Yup...they had to make the dreaded seven engine approach back into the airport!

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ToddBaldwin3 3年之前 3

Sorry about that Zach, I should have scrolled down before making the same comment.

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crk112 3年之前 1

lol we have all been waiting a very long time for that one

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djames225 3年之前 9

R.N.: "And that, gentlemen, is how we drop ordinance"....E.W.O.: "But sir, we didn't have any ordinance loaded for this flight"

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Aaron Shipley 3年之前 8

As the engine maintenance guy was leaving work one day, he reached into his pocket and said to himself, "I wonder what this cotter pin goes to?"

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skylab72 3年之前 -4

Cotter pins are for ground-based equipment. Engine retention nuts and bolts should be secured with safety wire.

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Leonard Shilton 3年之前 3

I think that was supposed to be a joke, skylab72.

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skylab72 3年之前 2

Oh, sorry. Acft Mechs get a little literal...

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Wayne Fox 3年之前 7

Better than losing the entire airplane. During my stint at Minot, we lost a B52 and a KC135 not from maintenance problems but due to pilot error.

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James Simms 3年之前 3

If I remember reading abt the KC-135, the LTC (?) was just days from retirement when it went down

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Wayne Fox 3年之前 3

Yes
From Wikipedia
A KC-135A tanker (AF Ser. No. 58-0026)[3] from March AFB crashed shortly after takeoff from Minot AFB on 17 January 1968, killing 12 of the 13 on board.[4] Major General Charles M. Eisenhart, vice commander of the Fifteenth Air Force, was at the controls and over-rotated at takeoff in low visibility, inducing a stall. The survivor, a steward, was badly burned and later succumbed.[5] On a staff visit from March AFB, the aircraft was departing for Glasgow AFB, Montana.[4]

In the early hours of 4 October 1968, a Minot B-52H (AF Ser. No. 60-0027)[6] was on approach, completing an overnight training mission with six aboard. It lost power to four engines and crashed in a field eight miles (13 km) east, with four fatalities and two survivors.[7][8] Among the dead was a Lieutenant Colonel just days from retirement and the squadron clerk, on his first B-52 orientation ride.[6]

Col Eisenhart proceeded to takeoff against the advice of the tower (It was a rather odd, foggy day in January (Thaw?). The big shot didn't want to wait for the weather to clear. I remember it well because they crashed on base.

Similarly, the Pilot of the B52 was a desk jockey, getting his flight hours in bringing the clerk along on the ride. The radar gunner, got up to show the clerk, in the EWO seat, how to use the e seat and never was able to get out

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Paul Claxon 3年之前 1

Always blame it on Pilot error......LOL

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djames225 3年之前 3

And so is your reply irrelevant

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Warren Craycroft 3年之前 3

Wow. You can't make this stuff up. Glad the crew got it down with just dirty laundry, no one on the ground hurt, and we can all chuckle about it. Could have been a real tragedy.

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Neil Klapthor 3年之前 3

The Air Force is now saying the engine didn't just drop off the aircraft but, according to AF Secretary Deborah Lee James it was a catastrophic failure of the engine, "Literally, I'm told, it conceivably disintegrated and, upon disintegration, came out of the aircraft." The debris is believed to be "at the bottom of a riverbed". They also believe it is "a one-off" and not a fleet-wide problem. They stayed airborne to burn off fuel before landing so fortunately it was not an impending disaster type emergency. Still scary enough.

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joel wiley 3年之前 1

From the local paper:
http://www.minotdailynews.com/news/local-news/2017/01/searchers-identify-where-b-52-engine-dropped/

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Neil Klapthor 3年之前 2

Love how the article says the pilot declared an in-flight emergency when he "discovered" and engine was gone..."Hey Co, didn't we have four of those on the left wing when we took off?"

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Bill Butler 3年之前 2

We had to chuckle one evening as we were putting along in our little A6 and we heard a MayDay from a B52.
They had lost an engine (not literally like this one) and had to get on the ground ASAP.

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ToddBaldwin3 3年之前 3

The dreaded seven engine approach.

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joel wiley 3年之前 2

I wonder if the investigation report will be public at some point.
If it wasn't fatigue, someone may well lose their Mr. Goodwrench badge.

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William Crooker 3年之前 2

It was a training mission and a good one at that. Lateral trim quick !

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James Simms 3年之前 1

"Hey...while we're up here, let's practice our engine out techniques......"

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Torsten Hoff 3年之前 5

That brings a whole new meaning to "losing an engine."

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btweston 3年之前 -2

Do you do bar mitzvas?

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Bill Butler 3年之前 2

OK. Now we can all stop being silly. That really could have been catastrophic.

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Tim Marks 3年之前 2

Lots of critical posts and not enough concern for the aircrew. Thank God they did not experience a catastrophic airframe failure as a result of the separation of the engine and made it back to base safely. This is a 60 year old aircraft still being asked to serve its country and doing a fine job for its age, but after this many years of flight cycling some things are bound to fail. Thus the reason to push the B-21 and get a replacement on the line for these old workhorses.

BTW, each engine is mounted individually to the pylon, they are not connected together. It only looks that way from the shape of the nacelle.

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ToddBaldwin3 3年之前 3

You have a very good point. I did not express concern for the crew because of this line from the article "...pilots were able to land the aircraft safely without any injury to the five personnel on board."

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Tim Marks 3年之前 1

The engine separating from the pylon left live electrical connections exposed, likely a fuel leak and may have damaged the sister engine when the nacelle came apart/fell off. Depending upon which nacelle came apart, the potential for a flight control surface or spar damage was a real possibility. This event was not just an engine out approach scenario and there was real risk of losing the airframe and possibly a flight crew.

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ToddBaldwin3 3年之前 5

I know that. I've spent plenty of time in the BUFF. I'm sure it was rather intense at the time and pucker factor was quite high. I've had quite a few tense moments myself. The point I was making, was that it did turn out well, no one was injured, they managed to keep their landings equal to the their take offs.

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744pnf 3年之前 1

B-21, $500mil per copy...2010 $'s

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Christian Parada 3年之前 1

Aren't the engines connected to each other?

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Wayne Fox 3年之前 5

There are two engines per nacelle and four nacelles. Each engine is attached to the plane via bolts just as in passenger aircraft.

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tking2097 3年之前 4

Err, most of the engines were attached to the plane via bolts?

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Christian Parada 3年之前 1

What I mean is it looks as if 1 engine is connected to the engine directly next to it. So how can just 1 fall off? If 1 falls off, wouldn't the engine connected to it fall too? Or are they not actually connected to each other?

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Philip Clifton 3年之前 1

Well, clearly some connectors in this plane didn't function correctly, whether they were connectors between engines or between an engine and the airframe.

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btweston 3年之前 -2

Doesn't look like it.

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Dan Egelhoff 3年之前 0

Besides a few fuel and electrical connections (non-structural) there are only 3 bolts holding each engine to the airframe. Due to budget cutbacks, those bolts are supplied by the lowest bidder.

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joel wiley 3年之前 3

Whereas a older Volkswagen Beetle had 4. Just saying.

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djames225 3年之前 2

joel...Me thinks he forgets when this bird was made

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skylab72 3年之前 1

Nope, just to the nacelle frame. I would be curious to see the cowling damage sustained as the engine departed...

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Ray Lotito 3年之前 1

I wouldn't want to be the Crew Chief on that plane; or the engines shop. (gulp!)

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Alan Brown 3年之前 1

I wonder if the nacelle opened or if it tore out of the nacelle?

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James Simms 3年之前 1

"Hey Boss, the power's down & I'm getting readings for only seven engines. Sure you ordered up enough JP?"

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17dec1903 3年之前 1

This is such a poorly-worded headline. Doesn't an engine "dropping out" of a bomber sound like something being released from the bomb bay? Shouldn't the headline read "engine drops off a B-52...?"

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Hugh Somsen 3年之前 1

You didn't know, a B52 carries an auxiliary engine in the Bombay.?

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Hugh Somsen 3年之前 1

Grrr, auto-correct. Bomb Bay.....

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djames225 3年之前 1

LOL...good thing as USAF may carry a spare engine or 2 in Bombay.

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billtanksley 3年之前 0

Good catch! Poor english grammer strikes the press yet again! I was beginning to wonder if they were carrying the engine in the bomb bay and someone let it go. I will be a 7 engine approach in a B-52 is as much fun as any other engine-out approach on a multi-engine jet. Glad everyone is safe.

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17dec1903 3年之前 1

That's what I thought initially as well: That they were carrying an engine and it somehow got dropped from the bomb bay. That would be worse than the "dreaded 7-engine approach," IMO.

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Jacob McGowin 3年之前 1

"Captain, engine 3 is missing!" I'll bet that isn't heard very often these days!

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btweston 3年之前 -6

Would have been funnier if you had said 6 or 7, but I guess we're all here for a reason.

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btweston 3年之前 -5

Wouldn't have happened if Donald Trump was the pilot.

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joel wiley 3年之前 8

Of course not, he would have traded it for a TU-95 before flying.

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djames225 3年之前 2

LOL..good comeback joel...

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WALLACE24 3年之前 1

You think part of the reason we have 60 year old bombers is that we don't want to give the impression we plan to bomb the hell out of somebody ILO of smart bombs?

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joel wiley 3年之前 4

Other parts of the reason include that it is in inventory and it can do the mission.

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WALLACE24 3年之前 1

Can do it well if kept up. There has been wings fall off on the ground just from fuel load.

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djames225 3年之前 0

He would have written off the airframe before leaving the tarmac while Tweeting away..

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AWAAlum 3年之前 -2

An off-topic aside-please forgive: Does it bother anyone other than me that the u.s. president-elect communicates his views via Twitter?

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joel wiley 3年之前 2

It scares the H^*& out of me. At least a loose cannon can be expected to roll down hill. But having National Command Authority setting international policy in 140 characters or less? You can't even put the 2nd Amendment verbatim into a tweet.

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paul gilpin 3年之前 1

you prefer to receive you news via the filter that is MSM?
brian williams, is that you posting as joel?

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joel wiley 3年之前 3

I prefer my news from sources that do fact checking, verification and use one of the standard style guides. Then I do my own filtering thru a customized grain-o-salt meter. Do you have a preference?

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Neil Klapthor 3年之前 -1

He's not the President yet. His Twitter comments are just that, comments, albeit sometimes very pointed comments...he can't set policy until he is sworn in and he certainly can't set policy via Twitter. Take a breath, or two, people.

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joel wiley 3年之前 5

Your reassurance reassures me not in the slightest. This is getting well off topic. A better venue for such a discussion is at:
http://discussions.flightaware.com/general/the-banter-thread-t4618.html?hilit=banter%20thread&start=5500

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AWAAlum 3年之前 1

Ooops - you're right. Sorryyyyy Joel.

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AWAAlum 3年之前 3

I'm not sure I understand - is it your theory that after he's sworn in he's going to change his way?
PS - Thanks for the reminder to breathe ... that could have been disastrous.

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Neil Klapthor 3年之前 -2

I have no theory about anything. I was just commenting on the assertions that the "National Command Authority setting international policy" via Twitter were specious. How can anyone say he's setting policy when he's not the President yet? I have no idea if he will "change his way" after he is sworn in but my guess is he will still use Twitter...to what degree, who knows? My point was that he can't set policy using Twitter. Glad you're still breathing!

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joel wiley 3年之前 4

Well some do feel that he is doing that. Among others are:

Republic of China
Peoples Republic of China
Republic of Korea
Democratic People's Repubic of Korea
State of Israel
for starters.

If they feel he has done so using twitter and respond to that then he has, in fact, done just that.

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paul gilpin 3年之前 2

why not ask the people of syria, libya, tunisa, egypt?
they didn't get news about what was going to happen their country until MSM informed us.

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WALLACE24 3年之前 2

He has become the president before becoming president.

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djames225 3年之前 1

Maybe you best tell that to those who "follow" him...why is it stocks of those companies he "belittled", drop like a rock?...perhaps he best clean his own closet and family closets first for "Made In America"

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WALLACE24 3年之前 1

No. Better than media spinning it.

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AWAAlum 3年之前 1

I'm not referring to him communicating with citizens, rather with other governments.

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WALLACE24 3年之前 0

We are in the loop! Lol

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Randy Marco 3年之前 -6

Don't talk like a loon. The only media spinning news is Faux News, Breitbart, alt right news sources et al.

How about READING and educating yourself.

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skylab72 3年之前 2

Sorry, all media "spins" the news. The whole right v Left is a contrived dichotomy wherein the two official "parties" can each share half of the better answers then swap access to the seats of power every few years. Wake up.

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AWAAlum 3年之前 1

A tad harsh.

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Randy Marco 3年之前 -7

Reality IS harsh!!!

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skylab72 3年之前 -1

Harsh? You can't handle harsh. The whole right v Left is a contrived dichotomy wherein the two official "parties" can each share half of the better answers then swap access to the seats of power every few years. You act like sheep act.

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WALLACE24 3年之前 0

If you paid attention you would see that even Fox can't repeat what Trump has said accurately.
That you start off by calling names says a lot.

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AWAAlum 3年之前 4

Randy, Randy, Randy. Don't make me change my opinion that we're all mature adults here, behaving in a respectful adult manner..

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WALLACE24 3年之前 1

We're not. Lol.
How's the weather in Seattle?

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AWAAlum 3年之前 2

Pretty typical for winter. A lot of rain. But I'll take it. It's better than the ice and snow we had in Chicago.

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WALLACE24 3年之前 1

Yep. Chicago not on my mind. I'm headin for Florida next week. Golf, muscle car auction, and heat. At least you are warmed by the ocean and you have wine.

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Harry Metz 3年之前 0

Snowflake, everything you have said is of the complete far left wing agenda.

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bob reeves 3年之前 -2

your an idiot

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WALLACE24 3年之前 -1

That's profound but kind.

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WALLACE24 3年之前 0

If you don't watch Fox you don't know what they say. So you are a liar.

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WALLACE24 3年之前 -1

Hell w/ the 52's. We need new VIP planes. ð

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Mark Ebben 3年之前 0

Back in 1988, P&W proposed a deal to re-engine with the 2037,

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Ian Kenneth Upton 3年之前 0

I sometimes lose my keys, why can´t the plane lose an engine :-)

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Jim DeTour 3年之前 0

Add a new procedure of one engine out of the ballpark for landing. Luckily it didn't take out and major controls.

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James Wilson Jr 3年之前 -2

Definitely not The Great SAC anymore!Where were their QC people ?

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Neil Klapthor 3年之前 2

Since there's absolutely no indication of what caused the engine to fall off, it's not a good idea to ask "Where were their QC people?" As Forrest Gump famously said "$#!t happens", and it can happen despite the best efforts of aircraft maintenance personnel who are wrestling a 50+ year old beast. I have 3000 hours in the BUFF as navigator and radar navigator (weapons operator) and can attest to that fact. Certainly, it could have been a maintenance issue, or it could have been bolt fatigue, or an explosion, or a bird strike, or who knows what? Speculation before any facts are known is worthless and, to me, is especially inappropriate when it questions the competency of very hard working BUFF maintenance folks.
BTW, it hasn't been "The Great SAC" for quite a while now. SAC became Strategic Command in, I think, 1992 and came under Air Combat Command (along with TAC). In 2009, the BUFFs and ICBMs were organized under the Air Force Global Strike Command....or something like that. Anyway, the old SAC is no more

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William Crooker 3年之前 1

How did the AC write it up in the flight incident reports ? No readings with #_ Engine Displays. Also, High Fuel Flow from wing tanks. One wing seems to have more lift too.

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ToddBaldwin3 3年之前 1

That is true. Certainly not the SAC I served in (I was Sacumcized)

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btweston 3年之前 -4

That was my stage name in the 70s

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Randall Kimm 3年之前 -1

This event changes the real meaning behind the acronym BUFF.

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