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US will reportedly require consumers to register their drones

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If you get a new drone this holiday season, you might have to register it with the US government. According to a report from NBC News, the US is ready to announce new requirements for consumers purchasing drones, the most notable of which is that you'll need to register it with the department of transportation. It's part of a plan to make sure that drones don't end up colliding with aircraft flying in and out of airports, something that has the government rightly concerned. (www.engadget.com) 更多...

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Bernie20910
Bernie20910 16
Ah yes, the perfect solution... from a politicians point of view. Elected representatives will be able to loudly proclaim (during their next set of campaign commercials) that they "took action" against the problem, and added hundreds of new jobs at the same time; while at the same time raise revenue (registration fees and taxes) for their pet pork projects; while actually doing nothing to alleviate the problem because the folks who don't want to comply with it will always find a way around it. Register under a false name, buy any of the hundreds of thousands sitting on dusty shelves in people's garage or storage room after they lost interest, buy stolen ones, hijack ones in flight, or, as generations of hobbyists have done for many years now, build your own.
joelwiley
joel wiley 15
Your apparent low regard for our 'representatives' still seems higher than mine.
gzelna
Greg Zelna 3
Yes Bernie, another piece of legislation, regulations, fees, and of course additional government staff to keep us 'safe from ourselves'....... What could possibly go wrong ?
delmonaco03
Since it works so well with guns I'm sure this will work superbly. It still comes down to common sense. And training. Sadly you can't train common sense. As much as I hate government intervention, I'm all for high fines for those caught being morons and requiring a sport or private pilot license. The higher end models such as DJI all collect the flight log data, mine has a map, logs flight hours and everything, manufacturers need to implement this into all of their UAVs, when you buy it, the s/n registers to your name. Anything that is illegal, gets reported.
sparkie624
sparkie624 8
LOL.. Common Sense Died A LONG Time ago... See his obituary here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/stoke/content/articles/2009/02/03/obituary_common_sense_feature.shtml
Highflyer1950
Well in this day and age, just limit the number of radio freq these things operate on and sell a jammer. Say 5 miles around airports, smaller strength ones for around houses/ bldgs, intermediate strength for around outdoor events. Oh, then some smart ass wiz kid will build a freq jammer unjammer and fly a drone into a baby carriage .....typical.
sparkie624
sparkie624 5
LOL.. Not going to happen... UGH Government steps in everywhere they are not needed. Next thing all my RC planes will need to be registered.. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
jetlady
jetlady 4
I have no problem registering my drone because I don't break laws or invade someone else's privacy to have fun with it. If we could get rid of the selfish jerk-type drone owners, this problem wouldn't exist. Unfortunately, as per usual, most law-abiding drone owners are being punished for the idiots.
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
I have a problem with it and I will not do it... Next I will have to register and have N numbers for all of my RC planes, and then they will require us to pay annual fees... It keeps going and going... I will not give them the entrance to start into other more intrusive stuff... If you look at Hitler, that is how he got started.
jetlady
jetlady 1
I didn't think of all the fees, Sparkie, and that's a good point. I was just thinking about how some of the idiot drone operators endanger flights, firefighting, and sometimes people on the ground (such as at the U.S. Open this year). I don't like gov't. intrusion, but I wouldn't want to be on a plane and have a drone be sucked into the engine. If a bird can do damage then I imagine a drone would be worse. If the owners would use common sense with their drones then we wouldn't have these problems/decisions to deal with, but common sense seems like just a little too much to expect these days.
sparkie624
sparkie624 3
Most the reported Drones have proven to be of no Danger to aircraft. Sure they were not where they were supposed to be, but the numbers have been thrown out of proportion.
bentwing60
bentwing60 3
The current state of our illustrious govt. is about motion not solutions.
gerardogodoy
You'll soon will have to register your shoes!!!!!
Yazoo
Yazoo 2
So I have to register my drone which on average is maybe 4 ftsq weights a few pounds, and has short range and battery life. But not a 8.5ft wing span, 280lbs RC model with a 102cc engine!
This makes about as much sense as TSA!
http://www.gravesrc.com/sebs260-yb-sebart-sukhoi-29-s-100cc-26m-102-35-arf-yellow-black.html
ExCalbr
I know of two incidents in town that illustrate the problem that's growing. About a year ago, a neighbor reported that a drone had landed in their yard. They were wondering what they should do about it. The rightful owner never materialized, and the popular consensus was "finders keepers". Meanwhile, there was much speculation about what might have happened had someone been there where the drone "landed".

In the other incident, someone launched his drone near downtown and got a message on his console that it had lost its GPS signal. That meant to return to home function would not work. He figured he had two options: either land it where it was and go get it, or go higher to try to establish a GPS lock. He opted for the latter, and, unfortunately for him and potential bystanders on the ground, it never re-established a GPS lock. Without a GPS lock, he could not get it to fly back to him, and it strayed, heading across the freeway until he lost sight of it. At some point he lost communication with it, and he never recovered it. He has only a vague idea where it might have landed. It could have flown for 20 minutes on its own.

That was a $1400 lesson for him, although I'm not sure what the lesson was that he learned. Perhaps the rest of us learn a different lesson from this.
MrTommy
MrTommy -1
Actually, depending on the quad, they don't NEED GPS lock to fly, or be controlled. You simply take over total control of the quad and fly it. GPS only helps keep control when you let go of the control levers. The quad stops right there and waits for you to give directions. If it loses YOUR signal, that's when it begins to return to where it took off. If there is not enough GPS satellites connected (usually 6 minimum), then you HAVE to totally fly it yourself.

This kind of problem usually happens in city environments where there's lots of buildings and other satellite blocking structures. Or in the woods. Here in Nevada the problem is less of a deal. Lots of opon air means lots of GPS signals and easy flying.

As usual, anything the government touches - turns to shit.
TMcDonnell
Linking serial numbers of these R/Cs to a purchaser will at least tell us whose door to go knocking on when we find it involved in an incident. That said some ppl can't be bothered to register a cars so go figure they won't do it with that quad copter
linbb
linbb 1
Most states require proof of insurance which means you have to register a car. And like another said those who do not or buy from another party will not comply.
utahcamera
Tim Smith 2
Term limits my friends! It's the only way to eject these tax and spend morons!
joelwiley
joel wiley 3
Term limits ensures a bunch of naifs who aren't around long enough to accomplish much more than being led around by lobbyists and high paying 'donors'. Look how well that experiment has played out in California - the leading edge of dysfunction.
MrTommy
MrTommy 0
The way I see it, the less they accomplish, the better off we all are. Political positions were never supposed to be lifetime easystreet jobs with unbelievable perks and bennies.
kenish
kenish 2
I'm guessing that many drone hobbyists don't know where it's OK and not OK to fly. A "Recreational UAS" license would be a good idea. Take a 4 hour course mainly about airspace (could even be online) and a knowledge test. No minimum age, medical, or driver's license required....can't fly for commercial purposes or non-hobbyist/commercial drones (already regs in place on those).
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
The problem is the way they are marketing them... Most serious people fly them at RC Fields on in contained areas... There are a lot of NOOPS who don't know better and don't care.
MrTommy
MrTommy 2
Most people fly them AWAY from RC fields, ESPECIALLY the "serious" people. They are not designed for that. They're designed for taking aerial photos and videos.
209flyboy
209flyboy 1
This registration stuff won't stop the illegal use. What makes our illustrious government think think this will solve the problem? Nothing can be done to stop stupid people until an airliner is brought down by one of these drones. I hope it's not mine. Registration is for law abiding citizens. The rest are not going to comply with any laws.
ssobol
I guess you have an out if questioned. "Gee Officer, I don't know why my drone flew over the White House, must have been a malfunction. Got some good video though."

There a lots of postings about DJI Phantoms flying away and/or doing whatever they want.

If you've been doing RC flying for awhile you probably had a model go haywire or get lost.
p5harri
Over reach and over reaction. I know several commercial pilots who say the drone threat is over rated.
However, if I bought a drone, I'd register it just like my guns are - No where.
sparkie624
sparkie624 0
LOL... I hear ya and I agree. All of mine are registered in my person volitile memory bank called my brain.
Bernie20910
Bernie20910 2
And of course that's the kind of thing you want to announce to the entire world on the Internet.

I have no guns. None at at all. Not a single one of them. Sold 'em all years ago to private individuals. Nope, no guns here.
joelwiley
joel wiley 1
And to those who think this is a burglar invitation, the most likely burglar will be a teen-age reprobate skipping his high school classes. One who won't be likely to be reading this.
N3055C
Probably CAN'T read this.
joelwiley
joel wiley 1
One more item to add to the list. Ben Boychuk, in a Sacramento Bee Opinion titled "What gets Banned Tells You a Lot about California" outline a number of thing banned in the recent legislative session. Two bills curtailing drone use passed the leg, but were vetoed.

http://www.sacbee.com/opinion/op-ed/ben-boychuk/article39323319.html

Who will be the first to quote "when drones are outlawed...."
ttimtm58
ttimtm58 1
This subject matter is absolutely ridiculous. When is the US government going to stop meddling in the private sector? They should make it easier and start embedding ID devices in our bodies as soon as we're born. You think George Washington and staff were concerned if you brewed your own alcoholic beverages, smoke marijuana or shot off a couple musket balls. I can't even light a measly firecracker and celebrate being a patriotic without being surrounded by police officers searching the neighborhood for the culprit. This country has being over protective, running scared, to dramatic the past 20 yrs. This might be a little off subject, but the intelligent free minded individuals get it. Oh go enjoy your 'Trick or Trunk' with your children/grandchildren. Good way to teach them to be brave..lol. Does anyone remember being a child growing up in the 50's & 60's. It was a better life...
ttimtm58
ttimtm58 1
clarification

meant 'with private citizens' not 'in the private sector'
'being a patriotic citizen' not 'being a patriotic'
kw77
There was this little thing called The Whiskey Rebellion in western PA in 1794 where the locals refused to pay the taxes on their homemade whiskey. President Washington led a force of 13,000 troops into the region, collected the taxes and put many of the locals out of business.
joelwiley
joel wiley 1
Weren't the troops the sort of 'well regulated militia' alluded to in one of the Constitutional Amendments?
linbb
linbb 0
Oh here we go add to other things that will do no good. Wonder if they will have a background check also. And if you are convicted of any certain thing does that make you ineligible to buy one??????????????????????????????????????????????????
jeffreytrees
jeff rees 0
I can tell you this, there are literally dozens of near mid air collisions every month in the US between US Air Carriers and drones, it's rapidly become an larger risk to aviation safety than the idiots shinning green lasers an aircraft cockpits (that also happens dozens of times each month). It is simply a matter of when and not if a drone is going to collide with a airliner and cause a fatal accident. I'm no fan of additional federal regulations, and I echo most of the sinicism here about the reality of it being effective, at all. We have to figure something our that does work, and soon, before a few hundred people are in a smoking hole because some pimple faced kid though it would be cool to fly a drone across the FAF at Sacramento airport. I don't have the answer, but I know fisrt hand the hazard is real and the risk is rising monthly. If a flock of geese can drop an A320 in the Hudson, a drone can certainly bring down one. Regarding all the comments about our broken gobernment I have one thinbg to add, our forefathers would have marched on DC armed years ago and thrown the clowns out, gotten 2/3's of the states to join together and change the constitution. We need to fix the lobbying money thats feeding the gridlock in DC. Keep your powder dry, once ISIL opens fire in the US I predict the President will over react and try to get himself an emergency extension in office.
joelwiley
joel wiley 1
Don't forget, those in office were elected in mostly low turnout elections. Vote, and get out the vote. You can be as cynical as you want, but if you don't vote, you have no right to complain.
bentwing60
bentwing60 2
Been sayin this for years, only seems to be getting me a date with Hillary!
MrTommy
MrTommy 1
Low turnout, and low information voters. Hell, NO information voters! And this is how we're in the mess we're in now.

They can't even decide that English should be the official language of the land, but we can argue about drones and sanctuary cities.
preacher1
preacher1 0
Kinda like a gun free zone and just another level of bureaucracy that will be needed to keep a bunch of government folks working and slow things down for a make work project. The though tis good but as I said, about like a gun free zone. Half probably won't comply and that's the half they'll need.
LoralThomas
You hit the nail right on the head. Law abiding folks will fly their drones according to regs. The others are the danger. Always shake my head when gun control issues come up. How stupid can people be to think the bad guys won't be able to get guns no matter what legislation is enacted.
tyketto
You are forgetting one important fact.

Within limits (read: DC v. Heller), You have a constitutionally protected right to own and bear arms.

No-one has a constitutionally protected right to own or fly a drone. The taxpayer may own the airspace, but it is subject to regulation. What do you think all of our airspace classifications, the AIM, the 7110.65, FARs, CFRs, aircraft registration, etc., come from?

this has nothing to do with law abiding citizens versus what others do. This has to do with aircraft registration which falls under scrutiny of airspace regulations, which the government does have control over.

But if you want peeping toms looking in your window via a drone's camera, or your house burning down from a wildfire because the fire department can't drop retardant due to drones flying overhead, why should we care, right? I mean after all, it doesn't bother US... /s
preacher1
preacher1 2
Registration is not implying regulation. It will just hopefully allow them to find someone if there is a complaint or problem.
grinch59
Gene Nowak 0
Maybe we need to take Israel's approach for registering gun and gun owners. If guns, or in this case drones, are not registered and you are caught, it is a mandatory 10 year jail term.
Bernie20910
Bernie20910 3
Sure. How many of those convicted are you going to put up in your house? Because we sure don't have prison space for them.
Hammerbeach
Dan Burwell 0
One more time, government is here to help! Get ready to pay for that registration and be tracked, user fees will be next and more revenue for the legislature to grow (needed) programs and administration - sucking for more ways to take your money!
mnrobards
mnrobards 0
Next they will require a background check and a drone license. They could use the same database used for gun purchases...... Or they could just outlaw drones. Noting the government does these days would surprise me anymore.

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