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Russia: Crashed pilot may have had fake license
MOSCOW — The Russian pilot who sent a Boeing 737 into a near-vertical dive, killing all 50 people on board, might have had a fake license, Russian investigators said Friday. Investigative Committee spokesman Vladimir Markin said his team believes that some pilots working for small regional airlines in Russia have not been properly trained but managed to get fake licenses in centers certified by the country’s aviation agency. (www.washingtonpost.com) 更多...
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Some interesting stall recovery techniques going on these days......The Colgan Air pilots pulled the nose way up in trying to recover from a stall (American), the Tatarstan pilots pushed the nose way down trying to recover from a stall (Russian). Both had the same end results, impact with loss of life. Guess before we start throwing stones about peoples nationalities, we should look at the fact that it has nothing to do with pilot nationalities but more about the quality of training in both countries. If the quality in is poor, the result is the quality out is just as poor. And.......CloudSurfer89 is correct...the 1500 hour/ATP does little to address the issue...letting someone loose with poor skills doesn't matter if he/she has 500 hours or 5000 hours. Regardless of Nationality, gender or race.
Complete true.
But some things to think of: the Tatarstan plane was not stalling; it made a go-around, climbed and increased power as it should be, then leveled as it should do. Looks like the increase of speed made him feel/think he still was climbing and so he pushed too much down, and in a dark environment maybe looked outside instead of on his instruments; and with just a few hundred feet there was then just one possible outcome. Then he was an experienced aviator, as a navigator; trained then to fly and had something like 2500 hrs on 737's. Then: even experienced well-trained pilots make mistakes, unfortunately we humans are far from perfect. So your conclusion is 100% true: nationality, gender or race doesn't matter. It is just about training, about having enough rest and no alcohol, about attitude, skills; and in the end: luck. Without luck we all someday fail....
But some things to think of: the Tatarstan plane was not stalling; it made a go-around, climbed and increased power as it should be, then leveled as it should do. Looks like the increase of speed made him feel/think he still was climbing and so he pushed too much down, and in a dark environment maybe looked outside instead of on his instruments; and with just a few hundred feet there was then just one possible outcome. Then he was an experienced aviator, as a navigator; trained then to fly and had something like 2500 hrs on 737's. Then: even experienced well-trained pilots make mistakes, unfortunately we humans are far from perfect. So your conclusion is 100% true: nationality, gender or race doesn't matter. It is just about training, about having enough rest and no alcohol, about attitude, skills; and in the end: luck. Without luck we all someday fail....
I'll bet you anything it was a stall and roll-over. Nothing else would explain a vertical descent into the ground from a go-around. The initial news report described a "push-over" by the pilot but the description was not a conclusion from a flight data recorder, it was speculation. The results don't bear out the conclusion that the pilot pushed the nose over. Besides, if you've ever tried to do that (in a Boeing simulator) you know it is highly unlikely if not impossible to get those results. However, it certainly fits the profile of stalling and rolling off to one side (aggravated stall).
Stall Yes... But he did not roll much based on the video... It was pretty much straight down and level. Wings in the video appeared to be level at impact... Just a very LOW angle of Attack...
The video doesn't show him stalling, it only shows the last few seconds of the vertical dive. He stalled higher and rolled when one wing "fell off" - that's what happens in a stall. Then the nose drops through the horizon to a vertical position while the aircraft aerodynamically seeks the speed it was trimmed for. If there is enough altitude to recover, the plane would have accelerated to 200 knots plus before the nose would have aerodynamically sought equilibrium. That also means it would have recovered from the stall and continued to fly. Stalls at a higher altitude are relatively harmless. But if the aircraft doesn't have enough time (altitude) to recover from the stall (and rollover) - as it did not in this case - the plane hits the ground and everyone dies.
Thank you, those are words of gold.
