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Another FedEx 722 donated to education

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In my hometown!! It's the largest aircraft to ever land on KGMU's 5400' runway. "After arriving from the FedEx hub in Indianapolis, the 727 will be towed to its permanent home at USAeroTech, where students there will learn about the mechanical aspects of large aircraft. "FedEx 727 freighters, once the backbone of FedEx's domestic fleet, are being retired and replaced with Boeing 757s," Beth Rush of FedEx Express Aircraft Acquisitions and Sales, said.… (www.wyff4.com) 更多...

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Billb2001
Bill Baird 6
Short field? Fooey! I am an aged ex-Eastern Airlines Captain. Back in the 70s and 80s we served St. Thomas USVI nonstop from JFK before runway lengthening. The flights were 727 100 series usually hauling a full passenger load (+/- 100), their bags and cargo. Landing fuel was enough to continue to St. Croix with reserves. At the time the runway was 4,650 feet long. Believe me the pucker pressure was about maxed out. If there was a button on the seat bottom I could have done a go around by picking up the airplane with my butt. This was multi flight daily service and shall we say,"It was a challenge". To the best of my knowledge the flight was 100% problem free without even blowing a tire in the entire time we served it.
bishops90
Thanks for joining the discussion Bill. Always enjoy hearing stories from guys like you and Wayne here!
mikeharbour
Now those are the comments I find most useful...from the guys who actually flew 'em! Thanks for the info, Bill. My uncle was a "replacement" pilot for EAL in the company's last years and loved this bird. I know they're missed by many.
Billb2001
Bill Baird 3
Mike, I bored holes in the sky in the 727 for about 10,000 hours. I'll tell you if I ever thought about getting married again I would marry a 727. No other flying machine I ever drove matched it's abilities to get any job done.
preacher1
preacher1 3
I retired in 09 after 36 years with a 135 and we kept our 707 all through the years those things were built and flying, hence never got to fly one, but from all I've heard, I sure wished I had. Did fillin for various ones after I hung it up and my ex employer took me back to drive a CRJ part time and do some training. We went from that 707 to a 752 in the late 80's and all that time, I would hear the praises of that bird and saw firsthand what a racehorse it was.
mikeharbour
Very cool; so Donald Trump isn't such a putz for having one as his personal bird after all, huh? I just wish I'd heard one of 'em take off before those hush kits got slapped on 'em. I've read they're real screamers!
Billb2001
Bill Baird 2
The original JT8D engine was rated at 12,500 pounds thrust. It was noisy but not horribly so given the noise level of most other jet engines of the era. I flew a later version in heavy weight 727s, the -17a. It was rated at 17,500 pounds and made the earth shake. The only thing I ever heard that was noisier was the Concorde SST in full burner on TO roll. That was unreal. You could hear one of those horror shows going from miles away. It physically hurt your ears and shook your insides if you were standing near the runway. (Been there, done that.)

Mr. Trump had good advice in his 727 selection. He needed a Biz Jet not one just for major airports. It was a big plane yet could serve almost any small airport that could support the weight. It had great ground AC and heat via APU and two airstairs for boarding and deprating. OH and by the way, he had also just purchased the Eastern Airlines Air Shuttle and it's fleet of EAL 727s complete with crews. He got the pick of the litter for his personal use.
distar97
Until now I didn't know which version of the 727 was the earth shaker. You might enjoy seeing a Super 8mm film I made while standing on rwy 31 behind a AA 727 departing LaGuardia. This was in 1968 when I was a 15 year old very interested in aviation. The noise was incredible. I had no ear protection and needed both hands to keep the camera from flying back into Flushing bay. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwF8rTV_JHM
My mom asked why I came home smelling like a garage mechanic.
Billb2001
Bill Baird 1
Wow, that was up close and personal. Aaaah the fearlessness of youth.
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
Anymore the 727's are quiet by comparison... The government made them put on HUSH kits... You should have heard them before.. LOL
sparkie624
sparkie624 5
That will be a great plane to train on. So many mechanics coming out green in the world don't get any real experience on airline class a/c. This will be a great teaching aid... Way to go fedex.... Plus it will be a nice tax deduction
mcpoo726
It's almost a surety that the plane has been fully depreciated. On their books it has zero value so there will be zero tax deduction. There is the savings of not having to dispose of it though.
CloudSurfer89
I was fortunate to witness this beauty fly in yesterday at GMU! I've always loved the 722.
bishops90
Thanks Sam!
bishops90
Me too, FedEx flew 722's to GSP not long ago, now replaced by 752's.
I got to see Roush's 722 leave here today. Sweet ol' bird.
CloudSurfer89
Are Roush's at GSP? If the 722 had to be replaced with anything I'm glad it's the 752 - one of my favorite planes.
onceastudentpilot
last time I saw them they were at KCLT
bishops90
Yes it's at CLT. I work up here M-F now. Matter of fact I was sitting beside Jack at the red light about 45 minutes before they left today.
onceastudentpilot
You work in the old terminal?....Do they still have two or one now?
bishops90
Tim, I don't work at the airport. Just close by. Jack still has another one parked at the old terminal as well. The Blue and white one. I forget the tail#. Hasn't gone anywhere in a while I don't think. Not sure what its status is. Someone on here should know.
preacher1
preacher1 1
Was it my imagination or did he make a pretty good bounce on touchdown?
CloudSurfer89
You're correct he did bounce it a good bit on the first touch! I'll put the HD version up when I get home and have WiFi.
CloudSurfer89
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOI1qIC-rp4
CloudSurfer89
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZyT2pJTbNY
bishops90
Stuck it on the numbers did he?! Nice that Rwy 1 is a bit uphill too. :-)
Been nice to be down on Airport Rd at the end when she went by.
CloudSurfer89
He did, not a bad short field landing! A little bit of a bounce on the first touch though.
TWA55
TWA55 2
Hey FEDEX, I'll take one of those MD-11's when you decide to donate those out
mwf117
Flaps 40 no excuses
vanstaalduinenj
Ok, I love the donation, extremely generous, but putting my corporate hat on for a minute, these planes must be worth a decent dime yet, even on parts/scrap we looking at 300,000$?
Fed ex topshelf in my books!
preacher1
preacher1 7
Yeah but on the back side of that, while they are good corporate citizens, there have got to be some tax considerations there that helps them some too. That said, Fred Smith has always been a give back type person as he came from a bad po' boy in the Arkansas Delta country
mikeharbour
Amen, preacher man, it's almost always about the tax breaks!
bishops90
I think the goodwill generated in the communities that receive these gifts is probably worth a few tenths of a point in market share. Which ain't chicken feed!
devsfan
ken young 2
The 7-2 is quite possibly the best aircraft ever built.
If I were the guy behind the guy at Boeing, I would have the engineers design an updated version of this versatile aircraft.
ad8916
Good for FedEx for donaiting their old airplanes to aviation schools!
downhildon
Donald Duff 2
FedEx donated 2 727's to our university in Anchorage & Fairbanks. UAA aviation dept. is located at Merrill Field which has a runway of 4000 feet. The pilots landed using about 2200 feet of runway
onceastudentpilot
I've seen the footage over on youtube..I actually think someone posted it on here in the past.
bishops90
Me too. Pretty cool.
ronswen
ron swenson 2
I never was a pilot, but flew on the three-holer(as we affectionately called it in the industry) a number of times as a pass rider, working for Republic and Northwest Airlines. Before I listed on a flight, I would check to see if the equipment was a 727. Quietest plane to fly on, even sitting in the last row. I can see why Eastern dubbed it the "Whisperjet." The only time I see one around now is if it's owned by a corporation. Seems as though 9/11 took care of them all.
vanstaalduinenj
Great planes but the day of tri engines are done.....sadly
preacher1
preacher1 2
and a 3 man crew
bishops90
Her last ride.:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/FDX9041/history/20130619/1340Z/KIND/KGMU
preacher1
preacher1 3
I am assuming you got to be there to see it. I wish the TV station would have gotten some video rather than just a still shot.LOL
HunterTS4
Toby Sharp 1
Must have showed up late! That's what I was thinkin!
christfollower2486
Not late...enjoy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9Z4Qb2PfD4&feature=youtu.be
bishops90
Looks like she landed twice! Thanks for the video. Wish I could'a been there.
bishops90
Man, heck no. I'm working in Charlotte now. You know I would'a been had I been in town!!
vanstaalduinenj
Trump ditched his for a 757 last year, partially cause the noise of the 727
JetMech24
JetMech24 1
Did he actually get rid of the 727? I know he has a 757 now, but I think he still has the 727.
VINNYHERMAN
vin herman 1
Oh, the stories, weather flown in, IF she could talk...
GOD, I'm REALLY feeling my age... :(
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
LOL, you aint the only one... She was truly a plane that could take a licking and keep on ticking... A lot better than any Energizer bunny I know of. Truly the prettiest airliner ever manufactured... I would have loved to see 3 CFM-56's mounted on the tail, or maybe 2 CFM 56's with a JT8 in the center... But Boeing decided not to go that route.
zcolescott
Always enjoyed the video of the 727 going into Meigs prior to being donated to the museum in Chicago. It's probably still floating around on YouTube.
Billb2001
Bill Baird 1
It is. Here is the link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&hl=en-GB&v=NV4tgjSPgks
United's Captain Thomas had his hands full with gusty cross winds
haroldspetter
a 727 at little 'ol Meigs wwwwwwooooooowwwwwwww
haroldspetter
I'm from Chicago and a 727 landing at little 'ol Meigs?????????? wwwwwwooooowwwwww!!!!!!!!!!
THRUSTT
THRUSTT 1
AA or Trans Caribbean used to go into St. Thomas wit 72's when it was about 4500 I think.
Retired Eastern guy that gave me a taildragger checkout back in the 90's said they took a 72 into a boneyard that had an 1800 feet grass strip...
preacher1
preacher1 1
Strange. I think it was Joel Wiley's question/comment here yesterday that prompted all these short field comments; now his question/comment is gone.
TMcDonnell
Any Word on if they will be painting over the Fedex lively like the one donated to MTSU?
2109gw
To my knowledge, they will be eventually. The FedEx logo will remain on the plane for a little while though.
CloudSurfer89
Slightly better quality

Low Approach http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TurZVUJLa78
Short-Field Landing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLrCObBd8eM
androidcaptain
Saw the one donated tht sits at KIPT
vanstaalduinenj
Was forsale last I heard, not sure if it sold. Discovery channel has a special on his new 757, I have it recorded but not watched it yet. I guess he uses an airport near residential neighbourhoods and was pressured to get a quieter plane. Trump states the 757 is the most quiet jet out there. I will try to find article and post.
mikeharbour
FedEx to retire historic aircraft
Updated: Friday, 21 Jun 2013, 1:15 PM EDT
Published : Friday, 21 Jun 2013, 11:33 AM EDT

INDIANAPOLIS (WISH) - FedEx retired a type of plane that the company called its "workhorse" Friday morning.

FedEx says its last Boeing-727 has made its last flight. FedEx says it is building a more modern fleet and donating its old aircraft to flight schools. The retirement of this aircraft is part of the company's modernization strategy.

The event took place at the company's second largest sorting hub, near the Indianapolis International Airport. The event was open to the public.
preacher1
preacher1 1
Link posted below, full article
vanstaalduinenj
I know that they planned on all being out if service by July 1, 2013, but there was talk of accelerating the retirement.
preacher1
preacher1 1
I found it. It's posted under NEW SQUAWKS but here is the link. This wasn't the last but they are officially retired. http://news.van.fedex.com/end-era-fedex-express-retires-last-b727
preacher1
preacher1 1
I'm curious. I think it's over on another post about this same thing but somebody said this was the LAST FedEx 727. Does anybody know for sure?
NF2G
David Stark 0
How many calls were made to 9-1-1 about a jet flying very low?
onceastudentpilot
considering you have GSP, GMU, SPA and Donaldson Center so close together; probably not many if any.
bishops90
Plus it was al over the news for a week...

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