ATC Argument though Bravo Airspace at KLAS

Just like everything else, just because somebody got a passing grade, doesn't mean that they are good a what they do. If the recordings are accurate, NR did not ask for clearance. On top of that, he became rude. Could have said I'm sorry, I made a mistake. But we all know that "everybody else is wrong. NOT ME" Right!!! Self centered punk is what we have here.

I fly a little 182 through there weekly. Vegas and Nellis approach are probably one of the easiest Bravo to work with. I look forward to talking to that controller again next week. I'm guessing wife no longer approves and there will be a 210 for sale in the Torrance CA area.

The very fact alone this guy entered Bravo airspace without a clearance is grounds for a pilot deviation.... the fact he REFUSED to leave Bravo airspace and had an attitude about it on frequency,likely will be grounds for license suspension or revocation from FSDO........ dudes a total winner........

Mistakes happen. Recognizing the mistakes, learning from them, and apologizing makes for more experienced PICs, and thus safer airspace.

Blatantly ignoring ATC is criminally gross negligence.

When other pilots are straight up calling you an asshole on frequency, and nobody but you is concerned by it, YOU fucked up.

Owned by "Wife Approved LLC" lol

What an absolute jackass. He needs his pilot's license revoked and needs to write a letter of apology to the controller. And yes, keep a close eye out for his Cessna being up for sale. Can you imagine the conversation if it had been Kennedy Steve in the Control Tower?

I don’t think I’ve ever heard a more entitled jerk pilot on the radio!

There's always a two per center out there to mess things up for all of us .......

One can only imagine what the other aspects and relationships of this guy’s life look like. How much do do you want to bet that when his license is suspended he will continue to fly? On the other hand if anyone is in the market for a nice looking Cessna P210, I got a feeling one will be coming on the market real soon

I'm unhappy that Henderson Tower apologized to the pilot for "the service". It's clear the pilot already feels entitled and that apology doesn't help.

Had he flown KAPA BLD KHND, he would have added one mile to his trip and stayed out of Bravo with no change in his descent profile. However, as Smitjere already mentioned, a Bravo clearance is easy to obtain in that airspace when requested. Having done neither, the pilot could have easily exited Bravo when asked. I wonder whether there was a pressurization failure which rendered him hypoxic and lacking in judgement. How’s that for grasping at “benefit of the doubt” straws?

If you look up Jeffrey Wachner, you'll find evidence about his personality that confirms this event. He's an instrument commercial multi rated buffoon.

airman's certificate ought to be suspended straight away. There may be a dollar amount fine attatched to this too. At the least, any taxi clearance or takeoff clearance should be denied.

had many fun experiences when a tower controller at So Lake Tahoe... but when we reported "incidents" to
our FAA brothers they routinely poo-pooed them and never followed up.. nothing will happen to this guy

Is there a record of what subsequent actions occurred?

I haven't flown in over ten years but on this entertaining audio, I failed to hear two sentences that I thought were standard verbiage from ATC. "Remain clear of class B airspace, squawk 1234", followed by "Cleared into class B, cleared Henderson via...".Yea,the Pilot was a jerk.

it ain't a democracy up there in the skies: pilots submit to controllers with or without radar to keep seperation and sanity while flying. No entitled butt-heads get their way in that scenario. Play by the rules or get on your bike and pedal. period. Does this guy not believe in 4 way stop sign rules or red lights or traffic lanes, or even stay on the right side of the road? If he goes to england, does he demand everyone else drive as if they were in america?

Just unbelievable, guy mixed up rules for entering Bravo and Delta airspace.

When it comes down? (Pun intended)...it is always "Here's a phone number to call". LOL!!! I have NOT been there, NOR done that! But I know/have heard of others.

He will probably claim that he was not at the controls. Ever notice that names are kept off of flight plans? Fortunate that the area was not busier. Maybe he could update his knowledge
with an instructor. This guys sounds like he is dealing with the old TRSA where all you do is make voice contact. Or next time just whiz through and leave the radio off.

Yeah, I wouldn't want to be him.

It is obvious, he hates the FAA, with all their rules & stuff. “Says right here on screen GPS direct” way to go Captain. No need to argue with the FAA lawyer. Pledge intoxication, tell em you were smoking weed.

This guy must have received instruction from Harrison Ford on ATC / Pilot etiquette, even though Harrison was always apologetic.

A question comes up from time to time at my place of employment, regarding if the FAA is truly on board with the "just culture" concept, or if they really just want to keep on blaming and punishing pilots.

Our local Flight Standards District Office emphasizes that punitive certificate action is reserved ONLY for those pilots who "cannot or will not" accept responsibility & remedial education, and so far they've been true to their word. The FSDO & FAA are quite proud of the WINGS program and they really are pushing for education. In fact, I frequently see pilot deviation case investigations get closed when the pilots in question interview and show that they've already taken relevant remedial classes through WINGS.

This particular one-man-clown-show, however, is the perfect example of the type of pilot who will likely face certificate action because he's not accountable and can't be taught.

Interesting that his history shows departing Calif and going to Minneapolis for several days during the unrest there. Very curious..

i agree JM..he obviosly thought he had clearance based on his first callup and recieving runway conditions at Henderson.She waited until he was on top of LAS than shouted remain clear!He should have recieved a vector out of class B than sort it out.He was panicked ,not knowing what to do...thus his apparent attitude..this is a partial controller error..look to be 50 -50 to me.