As they say, any landing you can walk away from is a good landing. Congrats to everyone involved (especially those two at the front of the plane) for what appears to be a very textbook gear-up landing...and no major injuries to boot!
They keep talking about how they can take the pilot out of the plane since the autopilot does most of the flying anyway. This landing could never have been done by the autopilot or just by a flight deck crew of one. It took two pilots to run checklists and set the plane up for a successful landing.
Great landing. Had a friend as a passenger in a 737 that belly-landed in Casper back in the '80s. She said it wasn't a big deal....smoothest landing she's ever had!
I'll fly with those two pilots anytime! The fact that the airframe and engine mounts stayed intact during the incredible stress exerted in that landing is testament to the Boeing engineers that designed the aircraft.
I really admire the pilot and his crew for the high professionalism in co-operation with the fire brigade at Warsaw airport. Everybody should be grateful that nothing worse happened.
whats the likelihood of scrapping the hull after something like that? I'm just curious. Also, I'm looking for the ATC tapes, if someone had a lead, I'd love to take a listen. As a native Polish speaker, I could do a translation.
Agree with Ben. As far as I'm aware, it is likely that they will repair this aircraft and get it in the air again (they've repaired planes far more damaged than this). It's not at all cheap, but it's still less cost than writing it off. Usually there would have to be damage to the wing-box/wing root or a lot of crush damage to the underbelly to require writing off an aircraft (thinking Speedbird 38 back in 2008).
You're assuming I have an internet connection worth a shit. <lmao> I didn't get the whole page. Gee, that's an interesting flavor of leather... wonder where I bought these shoes.
Have a listen to this recording, not sure if its the right one, but there is a lot of silence over the radio after when the emergency landing would have occured.
Large air bags combined with cranes. In fire/resuce, we used air bags to lift all manner of large things - RR cars, semi trailers, etc. Once it's up high enough, they'll probably roll heavy-duty wheeled dollies of some kind under it.
They will likely use cranes. That is the usual means of picking up an aircraft in such a situation. Large straps are used to pick it up. What they do after that is unclear. They might try and see if they can get the landing gear down. No explanation given as to why the landing gear would not come down (hydraulic failure?).
They will use cranes with slings, the set it om mules and probably try to lower the gear manually. By doing that, they can see if the problem is in the gear assembly itself or if they have to start chasing down systems, AND, I have seen in in years past(not on a 767) where they have done than and you go back to the cockpit and initite the gear sequence and it comes straight dow. Hard to fix what ain't broke.LOL
Total gear extension failure is strange on a 767. The gear rest on the gear doors with no hydraulic pressure. Pins hold the gear doors and gear in the up position. Doors and gear are hydraulically extended. In an emergency electrically actuated pins release the door and gear which free-fall into the down/locked position. That's what I recall, a 767 expert can correct or completely dismiss this if I'm not correct. So there would have to be a hydraulic and electric failure to totally disable all 3 gear....or one of the MLG would not extend and the crew decided it was better to land totally gear-up.
Simply..Amazing. Talk about flying by the seat of your pants. What experience could ever prepare you for that? To land an aircraft that large with 200 passengers and no landing gear is when you know it's time to walk away. Retire, go golfing and fishing and tell the story over and over. That was your lucky day, no sense in trying for a second.
Flying Mag. gives us a little more information. Center hydraulic system failure, probably fluid loss due all the redudencies (air bleed, RAT, electic pump, etc.)
By coincidence I noticed LO16 rumbling out of Newark and over my house in Yonkers at about 12.24am. The big boys make the ground tremble a bit. Wonderful landing by those fantastic pilots! In addition to nobody hurt, Aviation Safety Network reported minor damage to the plane. It too will live to fly again!
You know what is really bad about this landing? I've had worse landings with the gear down. Those pilots did a great job. Hats off to them and to LOT training department. Of course any landing you walk away from is a good landing. This one ranks in the column of great ones.
Fantastic job by the pilot's. That plane landed so gently, it was as if God had it in His hand and just gently placed it down. Awesome footage! What a feel good story!
Question: no disrespect to the great landing skills but the article I saw in the WSJ said that a problem was noticed within a half hour after departure. Why would they not dump fuel and return to EWR rather than continue?
Did they foam the runway ... I couldn't see it very well in the video .... how much fuel did they have to dump .... and how much fuel did they land with ? Awesome landing guys !!!