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Plane with 164 aboard just 30m from midair collision at King Phalo Airport

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A jet with 164 people on board came within 30m of disaster when a student pilot at the controls of a light aircraft mixed up “left” and right”. (www.timeslive.co.za) 更多...

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johnaddison451
I flew with a navigator - you'd hope they knew left from right - he had a big "L" on his right glove and an "R" on the left. When pressed he replied that if I were flying the silly thing facing backwards, I would too !

Scouse23
Scouse23 1
Inbound from the north to do circuits, positioning for rwy 11 and instructed to turn right and continue routing north of the aerodrome... in a left hand circuit setting up for a base leg join the aerodrome would be on their left - maybe a better instruction would have been "continue routing north of the APPROACH (or CENTRE LINE)"? 🤷🏻‍♂️
davidfairchild53
"PA285 turn right immediately" is a perfect instruction. Does the student not have a grasp of the English language? Ground him/her.
csammut
csammut 2
Some people have a problem and confuse left and right. When I was a student air traffic controller (many years ago) we had a colleague who had just this problem. Of course he had to drop out and went on to become chief met officer. This problem is more common in women.
EdPsych
KM Reid 0
Sexist methinks
JerryWh
Jerry W 2
On a statistical sample of 1 (my wife) he is totally correct
jfmitch1716
not if he has data that would show that.
ADXbear
ADXbear 2
Way to advance of a training aircraft.. I dont know how he even qualify to fly it solo from an insurance or skill stand point. The pilot had better get some hard radio listening instruct at a complex airport so he is not overwhelmed with all the communications going on.. then fly a 172 at small tower airports for a while..
paulfharris
maybe he needs 2 have a hearing test recheched
MikeMohle
Mike Mohle 2
I love the term "near-miss" used frequently to describe these types of incidents, makes no sense. A "near-miss" would be a collision.
davidfairchild53
Agreed. It was a miss or a near collision.
bentwing60
bentwing60 0
Sometimes it's easier to take the Chuck Noland approach, (Castaway), "I don't know why".

Near collision, far-miss, who knows?

Where did "onomatopoeia" come from?
Highflyer1950
Nice advanced trainer for a student pilot, retractable gear, variable speed prop & probably auto gear extension but with 103 hours he should have known left from right? Of course, if still a student pilot at 103 hours maybe he doesn’t?
brianrush
he shud be violated and grounded.
brianrush
years ago I had a similar incident. a student on base leg told to turn right and overshoot . he turned left and went over top of a DC8 on final by about 100 '. he was violated and grounded until he got more training. so fast I only got part of the warning to the 8 out ... he was by.
Scouse23
Scouse23 0
PA-28 Retractable gear? Variable speed prop? Yeah, it has a throttle but I don't remember it having variable pitch if that's what you mean?
CurmudgeonHRE
You are right. It did not have variable pitch prop.
bentwing60
bentwing60 1
"Prior to August 1997, the FAA required a high-performance endorsement in order to act as pilot in command of an aircraft with more than 200 horsepower or that had retractable gear, flaps, and a constant speed,(the correct term), propeller."
https://www.aopa.org/training-and-safety/active-pilots/transitioning-to-high-performance-aircraft

The PA28R200 was listed as 'high performance' per the old reg. and required a logbook 'high performance endorsement' because it has retractable gear, flaps and a constant speed propeller. The 200 was horsepower produced by a Lycoming IO-360-C1C6 engine that 'has a constsnt speed prop'!

The original "variable pitch prop" was ground adjustable only.
https://hartzellprop.com/understanding-variable-pitch-propellers/
rockingh0rse
What does 103 hours have to do with knowing left from right?
belzybob
belzybob 2
Presumably a student commercial pilot.
bentwing60
bentwing60 2
According to the SACAA incident investigation, he held a student pilot certificate only.

http://www.caa.co.za/Accidents%20and%20Incidents%20Reports/ZS-PTV%20and%20ZS-JRE.pdf

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