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Mon, Dec 12, 2011 NTSB Forwards Recommendations On Tailwind Landings To FAA

提交時間：12年之前

The NTSB has issued a series of safety recommendations to the FAA in response to an incident in which an American Airlines B737 overran the end of the runway on landing in Kingston, Jamaica in December 2009. The aircraft landed approximately 4,000 feet down the 8,911-foot-long, wet runway with a 14-knot tailwind component and was unable to stop on the remaining runway length (www.aero-news.net) 更多...

Jackie Butcher

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phil gibson 12年之前 0

It's what you would call a "Gotcha!" moment....a real long moment.....so this is what hydroplaning really feels like.....whoops!

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preacher1 12年之前 0

more like OH $%^&!!!!!!!!!!!!

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s. j. drake 12年之前 0

Ouch! Saving five minutes by going around, in hindsight, sure seems like a better option. curious how many times that crew, and others, successfully pulled It Off without incident.

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bdarnell 12年之前 0

Kind of like landing at MDW.

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preacher1 12年之前 0

You had better be on your game there whether in a 150 or 767

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phil gibson 12年之前 0

Wayne, well said. I agree. Pilots must be the Master of the machine! That machine will do whatever you tell it to do......right or wrong......a man has got to know his limitations!!
HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO EVERYONE OUT THERE!! :)

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preacher1 12年之前 0

Ya'll too.:)

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phil gibson 12年之前 0

Bottom line.....poor judgement....obviously! Nobody said anything about being an expert....chill out! This is just a forum of opinions and comments, not to be construed As a cause. Plus it's intertaining! Communication, that's all.

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Elliot Cannon 12年之前 0

Being an expert was a rhetorical comment. This is a forum of opinions and comments and I made mine. Chill out.

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preacher1 12年之前 0

Got to agree. We have all been there. It ain't like he was in a new place. With a 14kt tailwind, anything can bite you in the butt.His only mistake was not throwing the coal to it and going around and we all know there can be 9 million reasons for that.

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Elliot Cannon 12年之前 0

The monday morning quarter backing after something like this is always entertaining. Lots of experts out there.

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phil gibson 12年之前 0

Bottom line.....Poor judgement..decision making. There were two pilots up there. What the hell were they thinking!

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preacher1 12年之前 0

Well, that could be true also

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Gene spanos 12年之前 0

The married pilots will land where they need to be ,
the single pilot - look out!

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Charles Collins 12年之前 0

If you are an inexperienced pilot, you say "hell no". If you are an experienced pilot, you say "hell no". If you are an experienced pilot with a major airline pressuring you to land on time and avoid delays, you say "uhh... ya, I can do it. I have 6000+ hrs flying everything from Cessna 150's to 757's. I've done Los Angeles to Hong Kong, I've done Argentina to New York, I've done Texas to Oklahoma. I've had an engine failure mid-flight, I had an engine failure on take off, I've landed at the minimums countless times, yeah, I'll get her down, business as usual...

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shawn white 12年之前 0

Wonder why they have had engine failures mid-flight and on takeoff. Like you said that happens when under pressure from a cost cutting airline.

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preacher1 12年之前 0

Charles, unfortunately, you are so correct.

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preacher1 12年之前 0

And the rest of the story is, when all turns out well, just another day, but when the results are as here, "WHERE DID YOU LEARN TO FLY? At the best, it's a reprimand and more training, at worst, you're fired.

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dba74m 12年之前 -1

At worst, you're dead.

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linbb 12年之前 0

And how much was left to land on ? Time for the flight crew to go find another job if thats the best they can do.

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n737er 12年之前 0

Per www.b737.org.uk:
Max takeoff / landing tailwind component: 10kts (May be 15kts as customer option)
No tailwind component allowed on contaminated runways.

So AA must have the 15kt option, and a wet runway isn't contaminated? Also isn't an approach that will result in a touchdown outside the touchdown zone immediate grounds for a Go-Around at most if not all airlines? Landing with 14kts on the tail on a wet runway...very likely wasn't the wisest decision those pilots made that day...

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Daniel Biester 12年之前 0

NO LANDING BRIEFING WAS DON......

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Ed Wagner 12年之前 0

I remember reading about this when it happened...a go-round would have been a much better bet...

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preacher1 12年之前 0

you are either there or not. to land close to halfway down a runway, knowing you have a tailwind, in those conditions, is ludicrous. that man needs further traing in the worst way or just a good dose of common sense. that being said, not sure what the parameters are but it kinda looks like at some point, the tower would have changed the runway if the tw was that strong

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canuck44 12年之前 0

Gee, you mean they are supposed to land somewhere near the white lines and there is no arrester cable...who knew?

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Troy Raiteri 12年之前 0

Agreed I mean I learned that on my 3rd lesson never to land halfway down a runway with tailwinds (unless your in a 150 then that's a different story) and also with the runway being wet in the first place you would think that the pilots would know better. Unfortunately common sense was clearly not with them and this happened.

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