Go watch the MAX-8 vertical take off and power reduction to zero gravity video. Unless there is a bunch of smoke and mirrors, I do not feel like we are getting the entire story. I'm not saying that Boeing hasn't effed-up with what they have allowed from a quality control standpoint, but I have a hard time thinking that we are dealing with a Soviet-type maintenance issue here. Spilled coffee that shuts down engines on the A350 sounds just as bad, to me.

Flight Safety Detectives have 3 interesting podcasts on the Lion Air 737 MAX accident. Far different story from what is reported (They are reading directly from FDR and Cockpit Recorder transcripts. Make your own decisions, but do so from a position of knowledge and insight :-)

https://www.podbean.com/eu/pb-w9bnw-cfcd9b

Why isn't anyone mentioning the thousands of successful MAX flights completed by mostly U.S. pilots? I think most travelers that have flown on a MAX will do it again when the planes are released.
I know my wife and I will.

Can someone just cue the Curb Your Enthusiasm Theme song please?

Boeing is already resolving the problem, nothing to see here.

Well, looking for an inop light bulb put a 1011 into the swamp. Seriously, are we seeing the results of a regulator being found to be stupid, and lazy? Enough fox/henhouse drama. Get this aircraft back into revenue flight, and stop posturing....

Forgetting something here, the MAX was designed to not need type training. Boeing even failed at that and I am supposed to trust them ? ? ? We will not mention the shoddy work done on the new Tankers (OH, guess the Air Force already did) . . .

Much ado about nothing that's been fixed already

blahblahblah....more tabloid fear mongering. Every aircraft in the world is constantly getting modifications for all manner of things...some routine, some not. Why don't all you Boeing trolls go dig into the Airbus bribery scandal and see how much dirt you can mine out of that. I expect there is Plenty based on the amount of the fine.

This is getting boring now.

Boeing has been guilty of some stinky engineering before. I refer to the introduction of the 727 which quietly had been given the allowance for a small number of crashes, called its learning curve, and the plane did indeed have crashes , resulting in fixes and eventually a more predictable aircraft. No more do we hear, with each new model introduction, the concept of learning curve, but with questionable construction and engineering, there seems to be learning curves to be had out there from Boeing.

Fact. Boeing greed and unbridled capitalism = fbar then covered up as long as possible.

Boeing used to be proudly run by engineers and hard working Americans that were concerned with building the best planes in the world; then, unbridled capitalism came to fruition all though America in the 80's thanks the political party in control which was only concerned with deregulation and corporate profits.

Corporate Raiders sold off company assets to Out Source everything to the detriment of the middle class.

Virtually All the caring engineers have left the Boeing because their moral compass did not align with building shortcut systems or have been driven out if they weren't complicit with shortcut solutions.

America has reaped what it sowed.... AND people are still clueless why it happened and think a conman and his corrupt party can magically undo the harm... when that party is only exacerbating it exponentially.

The future is fbar as most all American large corporations are in bed with the pluocrates, so expect receiving more barbwire enemas!

The pilots unions have open law suits not to fly that aircraft.

Continued software discoveries does not bode well for them changing their minds.

And now there are multiple problems with Boeing's Starliner software coming to light.

Makes you wonder if Boeing hasn't bitten off more than it can chew, trying to write, test, and install software all by its lonesome.

I'll stick with older Boeing aircraft for now, thanks.

Flying death trap! Retire it!

"This is the last bug."

Not to change the subject. Any new info on the what
Went wrong with the Kobe Bryant copter incident?