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Military appears to be testing system to disrupt GPS over wide area. Large spread GPS outage in CA and southwest

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A NOTAM is warning operators of “all aircraft relying on GPS” of widespread GPS outages starting Tuesday throughout the Southwest and especially southern California. The tests will potentially knock out all GPS-reliant services including WAAS, GBAS and, ADS-B. Specifically called out is potential impact to EMBRAER PHENOM 300 a/c. (www.avweb.com) 更多...

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Ruger9X19
Ruger9X19 5
Are we not supposed to bring up that GPS is the cornerstone of the NextGen ATC system yet the DOD messes with it at will?
joelwiley
joel wiley 2
Ignore the man behind the curtain. Nothing to be seen here, move along now.

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joelwiley
joel wiley 2
It is unfortunate that FA lack a sarcasm font.
Ignore the man behind the curtain is from the scene in Wizard of Oz where Toto pulls the curtain to reveal the wizard at the controls.
As for "Nothing to be seen here..." see:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MoveAlongNothingToSeeHere

These are common cultural concepts with which I would expect you to be familiar.
joelwiley
joel wiley 5
For some reason, a 1938 radio program with Orson Welles came to mind.
ADXbear
ADXbear 4
The government Owneth, the government taketh away..... we are so dependent on someone or something else, not a good thing.
nasdisco
Chris B 4
They clearly haven't thought this through.
Bernie20910
Bernie20910 1
I have a friend, a mathematician and fellow ham, specializing in mapping and GPS systems, who works for DoD and who has been doing work "out west" for the past couple of years that he won't discuss at all. Looks like his stuff has gotten to the testing stage.
sparkie624
sparkie624 1
Could they have not chosen a better area?
chrisrobey
CHRIS ROBEY 1
I have been urging my friends not to discard their paper street directories for more than a decade. I do not have a Satnav in my vehicle and do not ever want one...

btweston
btweston 1
Now that's just silly.
joelwiley
joel wiley 1
One person's prudence is another person's paranoia.
And yes, I still have a Silva compass in the car.

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joelwiley
joel wiley 1
The test for paranoia is a reasonableness test. Would you consider it paranoid to be concerned about a 'test' that disabled your GPS at FL120 in IFR near the Sierra Nevada mountains?

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bronson199
Do you guys think Peter behaves in this condescending, insufferable manner in real life as well, or only on the internet?
Bernie20910
Bernie20910 2
Depends on how much he likes pain. There are many who would take extreme exception to his tone and manner.

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joelwiley
joel wiley 2
You also are confused about my Tenerife comment which was not about GPS but in response to your assertion and assurance that 'flyers' are pefectly safe.
BTW, what is your opinion on what constitutes "a legit connection to aviation"?
joelwiley
joel wiley 3
Feel better now that you got that out?

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joelwiley
joel wiley 1
I mistyped the flight level, the main issues with FL120 being pressure and a bit of occasional space debris.

That 'flyers' are 'perfectly safe': I must take that assertion with a grain of salt, with the loss of a casual acquaintance in the Tenerife incident. 583 'flyers' were not 'perfectly safe'.
I was responding to your assertion of 'paranoia'. You mention that you carry a Garmin 500, and an Ipad. I would include those in the 'prudent' category.

Thank you for your brief overview tutorial on aeronautical charts. The area covered by the area I mentioned is the San Francisco chart. I am sure it will be of benefit to at least three 'flyers'.

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bbabis
bbabis 1
Expecting a little civil unrest out of the California primary?
joelwiley
joel wiley 2
Only for those needing to use GPS to find their polling station. My absentee ballot is unaffected.

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joelwiley
joel wiley 1
???? Did you read Bill Babis post? Just how many voters do you project flying into their polling place? Besides, the NOTAM
shenghaohan
Shenghao Han -1
Guess that have something to do with North Koran I guess. Maybe North Koreas are using GPS guided warhead?
jshhmr
josh homer 1
North Korea's ballistic carrier pigeon program caused it.

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