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Wing Detaches From Airplane Upon Landing
Photographs of the wrecked aircraft show failure of the center wing box’s rear attachments to the fuselage. (www.china.org.cn) 更多...
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KInd of makes one question the logic of US based companies sending manufacturing to China...Just sayin'
Wellp, Land Rover found out the hard way when they knocked off a LR and called it the "LandWind" (how original!). :D
And Volvo is starting to build their cars in China, too. Wouldn't surprise me if they knocked off *that* and called it a "Revolvo".
China had to ground all their newly-built mil jets(!!) due to "quality issues".
Like, *seriously*, who'd want to risk his/her life to fly in a China-built a/c?!?
And Volvo is starting to build their cars in China, too. Wouldn't surprise me if they knocked off *that* and called it a "Revolvo".
China had to ground all their newly-built mil jets(!!) due to "quality issues".
Like, *seriously*, who'd want to risk his/her life to fly in a China-built a/c?!?
And yet a lot of people buy that China made stuff and love it..eg Apple products
To be fair, most time you don't have a choice (I've *looked* for made-in-USA or at least not-made-in-China fans, air compressors, drills, etc., and couldn't find any), especially with electronics.
A big dog like Apple *MIGHT* be able to wield some clout and make sure quality is up-to-snuff, else they'd hit the mfrs with penalties (reject whole lots, refuse to pay, etc.), but smaller businesses find out the hard way about corner-cutting, quality issues, etc., only after-the-fact, and there's nothing they can do about it.
Eg, I got 2 portable chargers (10Ahr), one for me and one for the gf, and hers was already going wonky. Press the *case* and it acted like a pushbutton switch, flickering off the front display! Obvious bad solder joints, interconnects, etc.
So you take it back to the store and get a replacement, and it's "no big deal", especially if it happens infrequently enough. Even 1% failure means you'd have to buy quite a few to find a bad one, but spread across lots and lots of people, it's still cost-effective for the company. (Pay back pennies, still reap dollars.)
In the air, though, nuh-uh. That's why you *screw* on the plug wires vs snapping them on like on a car's engine.
Like I said, I wouldn't risk flying on Happy Lucky Sun Moon Star Airlines.
A big dog like Apple *MIGHT* be able to wield some clout and make sure quality is up-to-snuff, else they'd hit the mfrs with penalties (reject whole lots, refuse to pay, etc.), but smaller businesses find out the hard way about corner-cutting, quality issues, etc., only after-the-fact, and there's nothing they can do about it.
Eg, I got 2 portable chargers (10Ahr), one for me and one for the gf, and hers was already going wonky. Press the *case* and it acted like a pushbutton switch, flickering off the front display! Obvious bad solder joints, interconnects, etc.
So you take it back to the store and get a replacement, and it's "no big deal", especially if it happens infrequently enough. Even 1% failure means you'd have to buy quite a few to find a bad one, but spread across lots and lots of people, it's still cost-effective for the company. (Pay back pennies, still reap dollars.)
In the air, though, nuh-uh. That's why you *screw* on the plug wires vs snapping them on like on a car's engine.
Like I said, I wouldn't risk flying on Happy Lucky Sun Moon Star Airlines.
The problem is there is a choice to stand up and take jobs back but as you pointed out, many get complacient (sp*) and go for a name brand not careing where its made as long as it works and the big companies can continue to make money but cheap out sourceing...Ive worked in computers for years and its funny to hear fellow techs swaer at and about Fox Conna (a China based electronics manufacture of motherboards et all) and how they wouldnt buy any of their crap...then they pull out their Apple laptop or iPad and start playing on it (Fox Conn made for Apple)
I will gladly fly on any Antonov aircraft out there and have, but as you said, I wouldnt risk flying in a China made aircraft
I will gladly fly on any Antonov aircraft out there and have, but as you said, I wouldnt risk flying in a China made aircraft
Wellp, things were so bad at Foxconn that workers were literally jumping out of windows to kill themselves. That kind of demoralisation, no wonder quality was crap.
China excels at cheap copying. Even if you as a mfr specify a *very* specific grade of high-temp glass-reinforced engineering plastic, the local subcontractor might "find" a cheaper grade of plastic that's "the same thing" (but *isn't*!!). They might reduce your prices, but more often than not, just pocket the difference.
In some circles, in some types of products, that kind of thinking and "initiative" is to be rewarded. But if you're making an engine cover that needs to withstand 700deg and resist being soaked in oil and still not warp or melt, and the plastic is substituted for cheap nylon, you'll only find out when you start getting hit with recalls that they did a surreptitious substitution.
Therein lies the problem. Take high strength a/c aluminum and substitute that with Chinese Mystery Metal, and you can get stress fractures, embrittlement, etc., and have the whole wingbox just detach from the rest without notice! (Eg, just goggle "embrittlement liberty ships" for some fun reading.)
So not just no, but *Hell no*, I wouldn't fly on a MIC a/c.
China excels at cheap copying. Even if you as a mfr specify a *very* specific grade of high-temp glass-reinforced engineering plastic, the local subcontractor might "find" a cheaper grade of plastic that's "the same thing" (but *isn't*!!). They might reduce your prices, but more often than not, just pocket the difference.
In some circles, in some types of products, that kind of thinking and "initiative" is to be rewarded. But if you're making an engine cover that needs to withstand 700deg and resist being soaked in oil and still not warp or melt, and the plastic is substituted for cheap nylon, you'll only find out when you start getting hit with recalls that they did a surreptitious substitution.
Therein lies the problem. Take high strength a/c aluminum and substitute that with Chinese Mystery Metal, and you can get stress fractures, embrittlement, etc., and have the whole wingbox just detach from the rest without notice! (Eg, just goggle "embrittlement liberty ships" for some fun reading.)
So not just no, but *Hell no*, I wouldn't fly on a MIC a/c.
